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Gerard Hundman's avatar

In todays world I'm most worried about the devide between the world of high end AGI and the dominant role stupidity will still be playing in how the world functions. I say stupidity because there are two tiers to distinguish. The first being: the high speed (short term gains) progression in the field of AI and the second being the growing group of people for whom the first is impossible to keep up with and it's gains will not benefit them.

Having an administration that is actively and strategically stimulating this growing devide, by controling/censoring both education and the media, the importance of truth and knowledge in general has never been greater.

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William Lees's avatar

Here's some hopefully useful constructive criticism.

Your article is a wonderful piece of thought scaffolding. It really helps the discussion. Please continue to help us to think through this!

Considering: Is the term "fallacy" a loaded-term? Could it be used more carefully?

Using the word 'fallacy' in this piece is a bit tricky.

At this point, the 'fallacies' are claims she has made. They're so-called fallacies. Are they fallacies? Are her claims valid? Sound. Or do we agree now that what Mitchell talks about are "gimmickeries" - marketing promises - and consider why we use them even though we know they are such?

And you've chosen a framework that itself espouses a point of view. Have your cherry-picked your scaffold to reach a foregone conclusion?

Considering: What is the larger process at work?

Is the larger process at work, the boom-and-bust cycle, the same as the product lifetime lifecycle of a much-loved product category?

Let's use two examples: the typewriter and the video game console

Considering: When is the hype dangerous, about narrow AI is reaching true general intelligence?

I think the hype and the over-promise and the quick-to-market can be dangerous. What are some fair and reasonable protections?

Considering: Where did you hit the mark?

I think you really hit the nail on the head with terms like: messy middle, productive tension, fuels the market.

I think your cautions embrace of the term 'alchemy' really puts your finger on what we hope for and fear for at the same time.

What are these pointing at?

Considering: What are the counter-points?

If you were to write an article based on a counter-point framework to Mitchell - what counterpoint framework would you use?

In what ways is overpromising on AI a useful way to move the populace forward? What disingenuous marketing should we encourage?

In what ways is over-reliance on Mitchell a bad thing? Does it create fear, uncertainty and doubt about the future? Does Mitchell hold us back?

Considering: As pragmatists, how could the next article help more?

How do we accomplish this point: "infuse alchemy with principles of science" - examples? Tools?

What tooling do we have or do we need to "port" our intelligences (intellectual properties) from the world of Cognitive paradigm to the world of Computationalism paradigm?

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